I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by flowdesigner - 2013/03/22 01:37
_____________________________________
hey,
I have a sfx-6, I will use the analog outs for a mixer and the mono midi for drums.
Either analog drums or a sampler.
any suggestions?
the vermona has 8 drums and the mono only 6 seq lines, so that is not ideal I guess.
thanks!
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by Barfunkel - 2013/03/22 01:53
_____________________________________
The Vermona works pretty well with the Monomachine. The 6 midi tracks is not a huge problem, as you can always play
multiple drums on one track. When I had them both, I never used all the 8 drums at the same time anyway.
There are a few examples of the Monomachine/Vermona combo on my Soundcloud page (Barfunkelizm and Is It A
Dream are probably the best of them), if you want to hear the two in action.
Other than the Vermona, you could wait for the new MFB drum machine, which is due to be out in the next few months.
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by MK7 - 2013/03/22 02:12
_____________________________________
When using 1-2 tracks on the MnM for hihats/fm percussions, Jomox MBase + MBrane might also be a serious choice.
Both sound really good and you can get more out of them then just 2 drum lines when using p-locks or several midi
tracks per device.
Sampler: mpc, or maybe just an ipad+beatmaker2/dm1? I'm currently thinking about getting a mpc again, the 500 would
be sufficient, to sequence jomox modules which nicely respond to velocity!
The MBase I would almost call a no-brainer, no matter what else you might get (except when it's a jomox drum machine,
of course).
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by RubixGroove - 2013/03/22 03:01
_____________________________________
You can find an MPC relatively cheap these days via Craig's List and stuff like that. Just for drums, I think it's one of the
best bangs-for-your-buck right now (plus you also get the bonus of using chops if you want, to add some extra flavour to
your jams).
Peace
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by zfigz - 2013/03/22 04:18
_____________________________________
i used the vermona drm for a while with my mnm, and while i liked it, i also found it a lil' limiting (though, you can
Elektron-Users - Elektron-Users fireboard Forum Component version: 1.0.2 Generated: 26 August, 2024, 15:32
seriously get a wide range of sounds from it).
i have since been using a sp-505 for drums and a sp-606 for other sound effects. they're great machines in that they're
SUPER easy to learn.
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by flowdesigner - 2013/03/22 04:20
_____________________________________
thanks!
but I want the drum module to be without its own sequencer.
I guess vermona, but m-brane is cool.
hmmm
that could be dope. But I want drums without presets really, so vermona then maybe..:P
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by Flo - 2013/03/22 05:19
_____________________________________
i i was you i would look in a novation drum station... cheap and efficient.....
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by dionysiananarchy - 2013/03/22 05:48
_____________________________________
the vermona is amazing, its up there with the analog drum machine greats,
its very punchy n fat,
i used the mono and vermona for a long time, 2 tracks is easy, 3 is best, ,, its not bad at all,
its a noticeable difference, its great, i noticed dead mau5 uses a vermona, not a fan, but he can use anything, and he
uses it,
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by Daisuk - 2013/03/22 07:12
_____________________________________
Well, since no-one's mentioned it yet - DSI Tempest. A bit expensive, maybe, but incredibly well sounding. If I wasn't
such a sucker for the Machinedrum sound, I'd go for the Tempest, personally.
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by flowdesigner - 2013/03/22 07:27
_____________________________________
thanks
I probably get the tempest some day, but for this setup I want drums sequenced by mono to play with mono - so mono 6
outs to mixer, maybe vermona and a cool 8 channel mixer.
Elektron-Users - Elektron-Users fireboard Forum Component version: 1.0.2 Generated: 26 August, 2024, 15:32
Any suggestion on a mixer and eventually some cool bus effects for it?
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by zfigz - 2013/03/22 08:50
_____________________________________
the akai mpx8 might be a good option.
http://www.inmusicbrands.com/wnamm2013/akaipro
cheap and super portable.
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by twofax - 2013/03/22 09:22
_____________________________________
if you decide to go the sampler route I made a pack of sounds from the vermona.
http://www.freesound.org/people/mike624/packs/11275/
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by we88 - 2013/03/22 09:30
_____________________________________
I recently picked up up an Jomox airbase 99. great match. They come up now and again. I paid $500AUD
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by we88 - 2013/03/22 09:40
_____________________________________
and don't worry about the no of midi tracks. MnM polyphony is easy. You can program all 8 sounds from one track if you
want to
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by dionysiananarchy - 2013/03/22 10:20
_____________________________________
the tempest is way over priced, it dosent even sound good, its boomy n weak, i was really surprised i wanted to like it, i
like dsi stuff a lot, my evolver is one of my fav synths of all time,
but the tempest, has a hard time doing drums, the analog side is weak, its a mediocre drum machine and a worse synth,
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by previewlounge - 2013/03/22 12:32
_____________________________________
i absolutely love the Octatrack!
it is freakin' awesome.
Elektron-Users - Elektron-Users fireboard Forum Component version: 1.0.2 Generated: 26 August, 2024, 15:32
there are many vintage analog drum machine samples for free here:
http://samples.kb6.de/
i know this isn't quite on topic, but anyway, thought i would mention...
in particular, if you understand the MnM, the OT is a lot easier to get wild with.
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by anigbrowl - 2013/03/22 14:05
_____________________________________
Thanks for the sample tip. Nord Drum is a cheap alternative. Pro: really excellent drum sounds, very programmable, easy
interface, 4 analog trigger inputs + MIDI e with it. I thought the mono output was insane but I have to admit I frequently
leave all my drums panned into the center anyway and then use an LFO or a ping pong delay to give it some dimension
plus a lick of reverb. If you're writing club party music there's always the possibility that the sound system is wired for
mono anyway. So it's not a total bust in that sense.
On the other hand, the reason it's so cheap is that nobody's buying them. Clavia pitched it as something you could use to
beef up an acoustic drum kit for cheap by adding some triggers but it doesn't seem to have taken off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZt7ZUqzOkc
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by dionysiananarchy - 2013/03/22 14:09
_____________________________________
the nord drum hasnt seemed to made the impact it deserves, its a really interesting little box, (just like my asian wife)
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by husc - 2013/03/22 16:41
_____________________________________
http://samples.kb6.de/
^^ This, a sampling sequencer (UW or octatrack, to stay in the spirit of this forum) and a computer running audacity for
prepping the samples..?
That setup could keep me busy for years.
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by alep - 2013/03/22 17:00
_____________________________________
since nobody has mentioned:
well, if you want to use "only" the 6 MIDI tracks of the MnM (the MnM itself too of course) and have individual outs plus a
wide range of sounds, why not go modular and choose some 5-6 really fine drum-modules + MIDI...
might be a little more expensive than buying some expander, but in the long run it could pay off in terms of sound,
flexibility, modulation capabilities etc.
had the jomox airbase 99 for quite some time- soundwise it is great, but the OS is quirky and editing is cumbersome.
MAM ADX-1 could be a match though, if you find one.
http://www.musikhaus-korn.de/de/MAM-ADX-1-Analog-Drum-Expander-B-Ware.html?pid=103
:P
============================================================================
Elektron-Users - Elektron-Users fireboard Forum Component version: 1.0.2 Generated: 26 August, 2024, 15:32
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by flowdesigner - 2013/03/22 18:59
_____________________________________
anigbrowl wrote:
Thanks for the sample tip. Nord Drum is a cheap alternative. Pro: really excellent drum sounds, very programmable, easy
interface, 4 analog trigger inputs + MIDI e with it. I thought the mono output was insane but I have to admit I frequently
leave all my drums panned into the center anyway and then use an LFO or a ping pong delay to give it some dimension
plus a lick of reverb. If you're writing club party music there's always the possibility that the sound system is wired for
mono anyway. So it's not a total bust in that sense.
On the other hand, the reason it's so cheap is that nobody's buying them. Clavia pitched it as something you could use to
beef up an acoustic drum kit for cheap by adding some triggers but it doesn't seem to have taken off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZt7ZUqzOkc
only one audio output was not ideal for this setup imo
thanks
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by flowdesigner - 2013/03/22 19:09
_____________________________________
alep wrote:
since nobody has mentioned:
well, if you want to use "only" the 6 MIDI tracks of the MnM (the MnM itself too of course) and have individual outs plus a
wide range of sounds, why not go modular and choose some 5-6 really fine drum-modules + MIDI...
might be a little more expensive than buying some expander, but in the long run it could pay off in terms of sound,
flexibility, modulation capabilities etc.
had the jomox airbase 99 for quite some time- soundwise it is great, but the OS is quirky and editing is cumbersome.
MAM ADX-1 could be a match though, if you find one.
http://www.musikhaus-korn.de/de/MAM-ADX-1-Analog-Drum-Expander-B-Ware.html?pid=103
:P
I would love some specific suggestins!
this is a no budget groovebox project!! I want the best :laugh:
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by dionysiananarchy - 2013/03/23 03:54
_____________________________________
get a spectralis, it sounds amazing, has a better sequencer for for drums too,,,
the patters can be longer, they can all be different speeds n resolutions,
and the best, u can set probability per step, that may not sound like much, but it basically means that 1 pattern can go
indefinitely and never repeat, u put many triggers to make a role, but with low probability on each, then every-time it
plays different triggers, so it never sounds the same, amazing and easy,
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by flowdesigner - 2013/03/23 05:17
_____________________________________
Elektron-Users - Elektron-Users fireboard Forum Component version: 1.0.2 Generated: 26 August, 2024, 15:32
thanks,
but I have the spectralis B)
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by dionysiananarchy - 2013/03/23 05:36
_____________________________________
then u dont need drums, more then that is just collecting,
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by dionysiananarchy - 2013/03/23 05:37
_____________________________________
or u could trade me, my vermona drm mk 3, for your spec
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by flowdesigner - 2013/03/23 05:41
_____________________________________
dionysiananarchy wrote:
then u dont need drums, more then that is just collecting,
I see, but this is for a different "selfcontained" monomachine based performance setup.
It will include monomachine - drums - and a mixer and maybe a looper
thanlks
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by dionysiananarchy - 2013/03/23 06:33
_____________________________________
reason why it has to be self contained? i would think, best sound, easiest and most versatile, would be the best,
besides, with the spec, u get an analog hybrid that sounds much better then anything the mono can do,
i had a spec for like 6 years, i want one again,
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by alep - 2013/04/15 01:42
_____________________________________
I would love some specific suggestins!
http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/apr09/images/PlugPlay_13.jpg
forgot to add the link
============================================================================
Elektron-Users - Elektron-Users fireboard Forum Component version: 1.0.2 Generated: 26 August, 2024, 15:32
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by Vader77 - 2013/04/15 04:06
_____________________________________
Nord Lead 2
Waldorf Attack
Quasimidi 309
Nord Modular
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by anigbrowl - 2013/04/15 04:17
_____________________________________
Well, Musikmesse offers several new alternatives - Volca beats for cheap, or MFB tanzbar for more $ (but also much
more power).
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by Paiheu - 2013/04/15 04:17
_____________________________________
What
you
need
is
a
MACHINEDRUM.
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by dionysiananarchy - 2013/04/15 17:50
_____________________________________
If its a spec 2 , u can trade it for a nord g2 , amazing drums, analog style, fm, phase modulation, everything,
============================================================================
Re:I need drums for my monomachine!
Posted by n3wt - 2013/04/18 06:50
_____________________________________
Ddrum modules are awesome, though they are all sample based, and not a lot of tweekin can be done live if thats
important to you, havent tried the nord drum yet.
============================================================================
Elektron-Users - Elektron-Users fireboard Forum Component version: 1.0.2 Generated: 26 August, 2024, 15:32
